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Post by coolgirl29510 on Dec 25, 2007 16:16:40 GMT -8
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Post by fairy_tale_girl64 on Dec 25, 2007 16:23:55 GMT -8
wow everyone picked out great presents for everyone
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Post by krisconcepcion19 on Dec 25, 2007 17:52:50 GMT -8
I sent my gift to the secret santa account and I don't see that it was delivered, just checking to make sure it was.  |
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Post by fairy_tale_girl64 on Dec 25, 2007 18:46:36 GMT -8
if you did that kris i hope you added whom to send the items too cause the person who set up the secret santa account wasn't someone that had the list of who bought for who..this person just offered to deliver the items for that person
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Post by dlfreak on Dec 25, 2007 21:29:04 GMT -8
Ho! Ho! Ho! Merry Christmas everyone! Look I'm sorry but this is my guild ... it's my Secret Santa. ... the way I want it run ... hellbent on preventing in my guild ...
The fact that you call the council impotent further shows your lack of understanding about our guild.
Never has our guild council been more than than an informal honor to a member.
.. the council is not a ruling body, it is merely to showcase well-honored members. ... I wish there was a way to not have a council at all ... Our guild began as a result of the dangers of sharing accounts ... having too many chiefs and not enough indians.
I'm also looking for the best interest of the guild and just because I don't agree with some of your guys' ideas does not make me a dictator and it does not make me a guild ruler that "arbitrarily" makes rules and decisions.
... little time for myself much less extra circulars like the guild.
As long as I feel there is a need for our guild and as long as I still care, it's going to stay and it's going to be run by my rules.
..that's because I have the dedication to keep it running ... I intend to keep running it as I see fit.
Which only leaves the question, are you with me or against me?
Hey Capt, you forgot to sign out of your account before posting! I guess the secret isn't so secret any more!! Although, since that accounts creation wasn't discussed with me it should have been deleted from the get go but I'd decided to let it fly since it was good intentioned, looks like you'll need to try to keep your accounts straight in the future!
And just FYI... staff members can see email addresses even when they are marked as hidden.  |
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Post by lindseyacron on Dec 25, 2007 21:32:08 GMT -8
I don't get it, why the double post dl?
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Post by dlfreak on Dec 25, 2007 21:32:27 GMT -8
Fixed. Thanks.
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Post by BunnyRabt on Dec 25, 2007 23:39:08 GMT -8
Good grief guys....I get busy with my family and Christmas stuff and when I finally get back here to spend some time and try to work on my theme week entries, I find all this stuff.
I know we have a lot of different personalities that meet here and have their own opinions and thoughts. Most of the time it works out very well. It's normal for groups of people as varied in all areas as we are to have differences in the way we look at things. And you all know that you are valued friends to me and how much I appreciate hanging out with you. But this is just getting out of hand. One thing you learn as a mom is to pick your battles and let the small things slide, in order to keep a harmonious home. Our guild is like a home in some ways, and in order to keep it a happy or at least a stress-free place for the most part, we all have to look at issues and decide if they are really worth having all this bruhaha over.
It seems like it started out as a discussion over Secret Santa and then it just disintegrated into one of those things where small things are blown way up, not necessarily out of proportion but maybe unnecessarily magnified.
This is difficult for me to comment on because I have friends on both sides of these issues.
For me personally the one thing that offended me somewhat were the comments about the position of council. (and I have discussed this with dl and feel like that issue is pretty much resolved now.) I thought I should make my feelings on this issue known to the members as a whole, as I think as a council member it is my responsibility to convey my position on things to the members. After all, they voted me into this position. If I felt like all this was was a honorary position showing my "standing" in the guild, I wouldn't bother with it. I take my council position seriously, and at least in my mind there are certain behaviors that are expected of a council member that entail much more than just having the title. I think I would be repeating too many previous posts to go into great detail about what our council consists of, but I will mention the fact that without the council to keep things pepped up (and our staff members) when dl has to be away for a few days, or longer, the guild would suffer. Lisa and I in particular spend a lot of time here being available to the members for assistance, and just for friendly encouragement and to welcome new members as soon as we can. We monitor the tone of the boards, watch out for scammers and people who might join just to take advantage of our generousity, and try to resolve conflicts. So I do take exception to the notion that we are just figureheads, and my feelings have been duly noted by dl.
I did my Secret Santa by sending Lisa a few early gifts to send on to my person, and she didn't know who they were from doing it that way. But then when it was time to send the Secret Santa gifts I just did that directly and sent a neomail telling Daisy I was her secret Santa. If that's against Neopet rules I can't see how. It seemed like the simplest thing to do.
All that being said, I just want to point out that as most of you know, the past year hasn't been a good one for my family. So I've been under a mountain of stress from several directions. When I come here to the boards I don't want any more stress. This is usually where I can relax, and get AWAY from the strife. So I'm not going to discuss any of this anymore after making my feelings on things known. It's over with now until next year anyway. The other issues besides the secret santa part belong either in the council area or in the staff forum....no more "airing dirty laundry" so to speak.
About the guild being run by dl...isn't that what a guild leader does? Cut him a little slack with some of his statements...he was speaking out of hurt and disappointment and probably anger. Everyone has at some point. But lets not forget all the work he has done in keeping this guild together for years. What about all those beautiful Advent Calendar graphics that he made for us? The theme weeks and the other extras don't just put themselves online. I don't care if he doesn't want me doing coding and other stuff...it's just not that big a deal for me. I'm not unable to do it, I just don't see why I would need to and don't particular want to have to mess with it.
I am probably old fashioned, but I feel like aside from the fact that I like Joey, he does hold the position of guild leader and as such at the bare minimum the title itself should command respect. And Joey should have our support to help him keep our guild strong. Everyone should always have the chance to speak their mind and feel like anything can be discussed freely. That said I'll return to my earlier statement and reinterate...."pick your battles."
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Post by fairy_tale_girl64 on Dec 26, 2007 0:04:51 GMT -8
wow lol and i wish i had the talent for conveying words i want to say in written form as you do....right or wrong its just not worth fighting over the small things that happen in life. and i think somewhere or another i also mentioned the exact thing of picking your battles....my dad use to tell me that all the time growing up and in the past year i have realized what wonderful advice that is....so well written bunny...what started as a great thought ended up hurting others feelings then that snowballing. dl may have said he wished he didn't have to have council and staff but i also feel even if he isn't telling us all the time...that he does appreciate us all...members staff and council...none more important than the other..because its a collective effort of each person that has made this guild one that not only makes me proud to be a member but honored to be on council. the staff is not less important than council nor are the member less important...nor the leader because without all of us as a team we wouldn't have a guild! dl with no members isn't a guild...a council without help when we aren't always here that have access to monitor and move post would be a much harder task but without members period...it would be nothing! but one thing we do have is as bunny said...typically a great group of personalities that typically work so well together. and if i quit this guild tomorrow (not that i ever have plans to) but if i did...this guild would continue on being as strong as it is now because of the dedication and loyalty to each of us...and please no one take this as me taking sides...i just don't like anyone hurting or feeling slighted or feeling bad...and i beg of everyone...to let it all be over with cause christmas is basically over...the issue that started this discussion is gone.
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Post by gaudianprincess on Dec 26, 2007 7:35:50 GMT -8
i got a little heated when i was posting...forgive me for that...i feel like i am caught in the middle but whats new...it seems to me that making a huge mountain out of a little mole hill is quite childish...i dont want to hurt anyone with this post...as i have said before this guild for the longest time was the only support system i had and most of the time still is...the friends i have made here, will remain my friends no matter what...itsn't it amazing that a site like neopets brought us all together, i am totally blown away by the wonderful friends i have made...i was able to speak on the phone to to one of my closest friends here in this guild last week and even with all the stuff she is going through still had time to support me in my troubles...just remember, we all have opinions and have a right to have them.
laters and be well,
jazzy jazz
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Post by captvatng1 on Dec 26, 2007 10:42:28 GMT -8
Ho! Ho! Ho! Merry Christmas everyone!
Hey Capt, you forgot to sign out of your account before posting! I guess the secret isn't so secret any more!! Although, since that accounts creation wasn't discussed with me it should have been deleted from the get go but I'd decided to let it fly since it was good intentioned, looks like you'll need to try to keep your accounts straight in the future!
And just FYI... staff members can see email addresses even when they are marked as hidden. No, DL -- I didn't "forget" when I posted the Merry Christmas wish as Secret Santa. It was a secret to all but one member until you just spilled the beans to everyone. And, yes, I am fully aware that any of the staff could have determined the identity of Secret Santa at any time. |
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Post by slcgsecretsanta on Dec 26, 2007 10:50:02 GMT -8
Merry Christmas to Girlgenius!  Something for your gallery. From, Your Secret Santa |
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Post by autumn_child on Dec 26, 2007 12:06:06 GMT -8
WOW!!! .........................
It looks like I've missed a lot lately....
I just wanted to say, that I, for one, understand what it's like to be so busy that you don't always have time to do what you would like for side things like Neopets and the guild. But I think that you're doing a terrific job, dl, of keeping things together, and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way.
I think that the secret santa thing is a lot of fun. It was my first time participating, and I was happy and excited to be part of it. I agree that there are many ways to do it, but dl is the guild leader and we should respect his wishes when it comes to guild rules. Btw, I used the slgcsecretsanta to deliver my first two gifts to nftysqrt69, hope that was okay.... I just kind of skimmed through some of these posts, so I wasn't too clear on that....(I think it was a neat idea though! Thanks for doing that!). Wow, this is rambling... I guess I just wanted to say that I hope none of us let something that started out so trivial ruin our enjoyment of such an incredlible guild! All of you have such wonderful, friendly, welcoming personalities and I was (and still am) so happy to be part of your lives in some small way. I hope we can all get past this and still enjoy the holidays and our friendships that we've made here.
On that note, I sent nfty's last gift to her directly on Christmas Day, but I thought I would post it here, since the other two gifts were posted.
I sent her
So Merry Christmas (belated) and Happy Holidays to you all, and I hope they are wonderful for all of you! I look forward to what the future brings, and I hope you will all be here to share it with me!
Namaste
(the divine in me bows to the divine in you)
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Post by nftysqrt69 on Dec 27, 2007 19:38:48 GMT -8
I think I forgot to tell Tanzi I was her secret Santa. I hope yo got the gifts!
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